WARNING:  IF YOU HAVE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT, OR MAY IN THE FUTURE, this EFFECTS YOU!!!  
Even if you dont have a upcoming 2nd, or 6th grader, if the teachers are eliminated this year, It sets a precedent, and may happen to other grades....  MR. ROSSI SPOKE OUT AT THE COW MEETING (THANK YOU)  PARENTS,  WE NEED TO DO THE SAME!!!!!!    Unfortunatly , The board is only listening to those that dont care about the kids education anymoer.. The meeting only had representation from those retirees only concerned about taxes.... Those of us that cant go because we are home doing homework with our kids after a long days work, and running kids around to sporting events, and ptc meetings , parent seminars, concerts etc. for our children need to voice opinions any way we can to the board.. DO NOT ELIMINATE TEACHERS..  You can charge me to play, you can send my 5th grader on a bus with a 12th grader, Close down and consolidate their school but, dont take away the biggest impact on a childs quality education, and the one thing Brandywine has going for it. Small class sizes with quality teachers..

  Below is excerpt from DR. Handler..   The second grade at DT currently has 62 students enrolled.. To me this looks like they will have class sizes of over 31 kids , having only 2 teachers??? 

"Prior to Monday night a sixth grade position was eliminated because the enrollment allowed us to do so,  That cut was made at my recommendation.  The reduction of two additional elementary positions was made at the direction of the majority of the Board of Directors.  The reductions will be at the second and sixth grades.  I agree that Mr. Rossi and Dr. Johnson stated well the potential consequences of these reductions. Martin Handler on:4/28/2010 2:21:14 PM "

Concerned Parent.. on:4/28/2010 6:52:49 PM

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Whoever is telling you that you only have class sizes of 24 is FOS, the classes now are around 26 and ARE GOING TO RISE, you may save this coming year however you will be required to hire the following year a second grade teacher. Let me just say this I invite you and any other board member to come and spend the ENTIRE DAY in a second grade class and tell me that it's ok to add 2-4 more kids to their classes. On any given day it takes approximately 3-4 adults to work through the writing lessons in the class, this isn't because the teacher isn't good enough it's because she can't spread herself that thin to meet the needs of 26 students and get the work completed!!! These aren't excuses these are the facts, and at what cost are we willing to sacrafice our children for a mere $45, 000???? You know that I am all for saving money, this is the worst excuse to save money!It is not our students fault or our tax payers fault that the state over promised funds to pensions, why should these kids have to sacrafise it though? What type of saving are we making in 5th and now 6th grade? another 45,000, not worth it. This is the reason that the No Child Left Behind will fail, the teachers will have no choice but to fail them or pass them through and hope that the next teacher will be able to help! Shame on us!

pissed off on:4/28/2010 8:15:55 PM

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Don't forget to pay your PSEA union dues.

Interested on:4/29/2010 7:35:56 AM

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I do take some time to monitor this site and once in a while post to correct wrong or incomplete information.  I see that as part of my responsibility to provide correct information to the public.
We have ferwer administrators than any district our size.  We have one principal for two schools.  Most district our size have an assistant business manager we do not. Most districts our size have an assistant special education director we do not.
As far as compensation, administrators are not paid anywhere near twice the pay of teachers.  In fact if you take into consideration the time actually spent on the job there is very little difference.

Martin Handler on:4/29/2010 10:10:33 AM

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Just wait until they see the Kindergarten enrollment numbers for next fall.  You will need these Teachers.  Smaller class sizes produce better students.  When it comes to the quality of the education here you don't cut back in those areas.  These people just don't get it.  I remember this Sheetz guy crying about closing Rockland last year.  But, now he wants to increase the sizes of the classes.  Wow what happened there?

Anonymous_64017901030218 on:4/29/2010 10:41:34 AM

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I "heard" he was paid off by the taxpayer group.

Anonymous on:4/29/2010 1:55:14 PM

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With all due respect, I am not paid anywhere near twice a teacher's salary with my experience and education, nor are any of the administrators when you are comparing like circumstances. 
Please refer to my previous psot.  The reduction of the two elementary teachers was not my recommendation.

Martin Handler on:4/29/2010 3:31:17 PM

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I'm like the board I don't compare apples to apples. Maybe we don't need such a high paid administrator with all your experience. Maybe a bottom rung person could do the same job as you. You may have been against the elementary positions but are for the sixth grade elimination. I stand by my post. It makes no sense to do this in either school.

Anonymous on:4/29/2010 4:19:06 PM

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A teacher with  14 years and an educational level of master plus 60 hours will make $80,698.  That for 187. That would be $112,200 for a regular work year. Their performance could be good, bad or indifferent. The Supt. pay is based on his performance. The teacher is only responsible for the students in their class, The Superintendent is responsible for providing an educational opportunity for every student in the district while balancing the finances of the district and recognizing the plight of the taxpayers.

To set the record straight he was not in favor of reducing any of the open positions. He only said if the board was going to not fill one position he would rather do it in the 6th grade than the 2nd. It was the board decision to do both.

Robert Lowry on:4/29/2010 8:33:52 PM

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Well, if the superintendent's pay is based upon his performance, then I think he may owe the district some money.

When he sits at board meetings and plays with his iPhone, naps during a "class" to show teachers how to use a new system, and delegates most of his duties to others within the district, how can his pay justify what he does?

Some take notice... on:4/29/2010 9:45:03 PM

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"Your the idiot."

Priceless.

amused2 on:4/30/2010 7:54:19 AM

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Martin Handler's salary last year was $135000- I don't know if there were other bonuses.

Anonymous_21601620890130 on:4/30/2010 8:29:01 AM

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Which board member are you?

Say Who? on:4/30/2010 9:01:10 AM

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I vote to get rid of some of the over-paid $80,000 teachers that have less than desirable performance and hire 2 teachers to replace the one.  Tenure and Degrees don't equate high performance - yet that's what we pay for.  I suppose if we get rid of a teacher, administration can't determine who is let go based on performance?  Is it based on tenure?  Just wondering

Performance Doesn't Matter on:4/30/2010 10:24:41 AM

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Does he get a bonus?

Anonymous_21601620890130 on:4/30/2010 12:34:54 PM

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My understanding is that a 6th grade teacher will be moving to second grade so the increase will be in the class size in the 6th grade.  I may be wrong, but the only concern is money so it really doesn't matter what is being discussed on here. 

Anonymous_75097054047 on:4/30/2010 5:51:43 PM

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So that pretty much means we won't.  It is heartbreaking to see the route that has to be taken.  The only people this board is concerned with are the people in their special little interest group not the kids. So much for the leaders of tomorrow.

Anonymous_75097054047 on:4/30/2010 9:38:47 PM

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So if someone "heard" JOhn SHeetz got bought out by the tax payer group... Can you blame him? He probably needed to money to send his kid to Private school????

anon on:5/1/2010 8:55:21 AM

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Excellent.  I stated this earlier in the week.  We as a community need to remember this.  Their time will be up some and elections will take place.  We have to get out and vote these power-hungry school wreckers out.  We CANNOT continue to go down this path that puts the education of our youths on the back burner.  They have no clue what goes into running a successful district that has the children's education as the number one priority.  Remember all this crap and hopefully it will be motivational enough to get our communities good people out to vote. 

Anonymous_75097054047 on:5/1/2010 9:41:05 AM

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In time the good, caring people of our district will begin to get upset with the changes of the board members who DON"T EVEN HAVE ANY KIDS IN SCHOOL so what do you think their agenda is?
Parents who care about their child's education need to replace the current members asap!

Anonymous_20501880117017 on:5/1/2010 4:39:52 PM

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Upon the subject of education, not presuming to dictate any plan or system respecting it, I can only say that I view it as the most important subject which we as a people can be engaged in.

So funny that on the board section of the school web site this quote is listed.  I guess what the tax payer members should do is change the word education to MONEY and that would reflect their philosophy on the education of our children.

Anonymous_75097054047 on:5/2/2010 9:12:50 AM

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More like realist. You just can't stand it.

Anonymous on:5/3/2010 8:08:06 AM

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You have a lot of nerve to come on talking about spirit. What kind of school and community spirit does it show when you ask the students to pay to go out and represent us as a district and a community throughout this county and even statewide for those teams that have been more successful, as we will when we formally adopt pay to play? At least the Reading Eagle editor got it right in their opinion column in yesterdays Reading Eagle. Pay to play is inappropriate on any level.

Anonymous on:5/3/2010 10:29:19 AM

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The school district has no other choice but to shoulder the burden.  We have a responsibility to pay our way and educate our children. 

Otherwise, we should be discussing merging with Oley and Kutztown.  Instead of cutting programs, create a larger district to provide more programs at a lower cost.

How about it taxpayer group advocates?  How come all we hear from you are senior discounts and cutting teachers?  Come'on, think out of the box! 

The same goes for you, Doc.  Perhaps your legacy should be known as the guy who had the guts to pull off a merger of the district to the benefit of all.  Think about it, we could have track, football, more curriculam and potentially lower taxes.  It's a win-win!

amused2 on:5/3/2010 11:45:42 AM

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People complain about the change because none of it is good for the district as a whole. Pay to play only divides a community and pushes an additional tax onto the families in the district who also are struggling to make ends meet. Cutting teachers, don't even get me started. I saw the AVERAGE number of sixth grade students. Over 27 kids in a class. And thats average so some classes will be even larger. That is just insane. The change has to be balanced some how but this board is as unbalanced as any I have ever seen. Unless it screws the students and their education or benefits the taxpayer group it won't be happening.

Anonymous on:5/3/2010 1:10:20 PM

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NO!  Tonight does not have to be a done deal!  Parents - show up at the board meeting and express your opinions about their decision.  The discussion at the committee of the whole meeting (another important meeting for us all to attend) was laughable.  No thought AT ALL was given to the administrators' and parent concern over increasing class size.  The board is a group of people elected by the community...they work for us.  Not just the tax payers' association.  Please - we need to let them know that we are not happy with this direction.  Everyone concerned should attend tonight (Mon, May 3, 7pm, M.S. auditorium)

Christine on:5/3/2010 1:57:21 PM

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Google Project Star Analyses of Project STAR data indicated that small classes had positive effects on student achievement (Finn & Achilles, 1990). More recent analyses that considered validity threats (e.g., attrition, switching) also demonstrated that small classes increase student achievement (Krueger, 1999; Nye et al., 2000b). Other analyses have shown long-term positive effects of class reduction on student performance (Finn, Gerber, Achilles, & Boyd-Zaharias, 2001; Krueger & Whitmore, 2001; Nye, Hedges, & Konstantopoulos, 1999). Icould go on and on but it's your turn. Provide facts that state your side. 27 kids in a class is clearly a bad thing for our youth.

Anonymous on:5/3/2010 4:18:50 PM

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I am sure 1 on 1 would even be better. But the rest of the residents of the district can't afford that. Education has been watered down over the years. Go pickup a text book from 15 to 25 years ago and compare it to one used now. Ask a long term college professor how pathetic HS graduates have become over the years. Keep watering it down and insisting on small class sizes vs forcing kids to learn some things on their own. The countries that compete with us in the global market are counting on all of the losers around here to keep failing to produce acceptable employees in their fields of expertise.

Keep those little cherubs glued in front of the boob tube or playing their console games. Make sure you kick and scream about every sports issue too. Make sure you support the coaches who have practices until 9 or 9:30pm for the elementary kids. Don't forget to blame the teachers/school/etc because your child didn't learn anything because they were too tired the next day. Keep teaching every future generation that the loud squeaky wheel gets the oil. But don't wonder why everything is getting worse every year. It is because we breed contempt about anything that doesn't revolve around the "its all about me" mentality. This is also the reason there is little or no work ethic today. The entitlement crowd at its best.

One of my favorite conversations was with someone who was offended at my answer when they said "its the school job to teach that to my kid." She was talking about the basics.. ABC's, numbers, colors, etc. Her kid was almost 5 and ready to enter kindergarten. I am sure she pissed and moaned for years about how the school failed her and her kids. When I started school in the mid 70's you couldn't start kindergarten without knowing the basics. You went to the school, were tested on basic skills and were told to stay at home an extra year if you were lacking.

<sarcasm> Keep those excuses flowing. Accountability is only for everyone else. <sarcasm>

Bah Humbug! on:5/3/2010 6:25:23 PM

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You know your child probably does need to be in a smaller class size if he/she is learning manners from you. Simply because you hide under the guise of anonymity does not mean that you drop all civility.  Is this how you teach your child to respond if they don't like what someone is saying?Maybe you don't agree but reverting to a  three year old by name calling is silly.  Hate to break it to you but there will be more than 30 people in a college course.

Anonymous_240115030119 on:5/3/2010 7:23:07 PM

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So in the meantime, my children are well behaved but have to suffer because some parents don't "teach their children manners?" 25 second graders are too many. We have, as a society, decided to main stream special needs children, which makes for  a loud, busy classroom. The quiet children are going to get passed over and not have their needs met because the teacher is too occupied with all of the pressing needs of the other children.

Anonymous_24011500066 on:5/3/2010 9:02:31 PM

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Thats the reason the teachers get paid the big bucks.  To teach.... 

Anonymous_208010101640153 on:5/3/2010 10:54:33 PM

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So now you are saying that special needs students should not have the chance at an education???

Anonymous_700440520247 on:5/4/2010 6:19:01 AM

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Of course special education children deserve the best education they can get. That is NOT going to happen in a room with 27 other children. Everybody loses. Well, everyone except the tax payer association. They win back their ONE TENTH OF A MILL.

Anonymous_24011500066 on:5/4/2010 7:01:55 AM

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Start the district merger process.

amused2 on:5/4/2010 7:44:51 AM

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Only if we could merge with Parkland the ones we border with in Berks Co have more money problems than we do.

Doubtful on:5/4/2010 9:19:46 AM

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The only thing that changed was the introduction of extremely lazy parents. The same parents that blame everyone else for the failure of their kids. The same entitlement crowd that ruins almost everything else for the masses.

Just remember one thing. Kids learn by watching their parents. Every time you get all high and mighty crapping on the school, teachers, police or anyone else with any authority you are teaching them to do the same.

Bah Humbug! on:5/4/2010 3:51:50 PM

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If you truly think that is the only thing that has changed you are an even bigger dope than most people think. I can tell you what has also changed. The way senior citizens whine and complain about providing the best education possible for our youth.

Anonymous on:5/4/2010 4:02:13 PM

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Based on their previous vote
Not Enough
Kenneth Heffner,Carol Emrick. Rosemary Lamaestra. Cheryl Eyrich

Too Deep
Elizabeth Stehman,Roger Bollinger. John Scheetz

Lori Yocco was out of town but at the budget meeting she did ask that the comprixe pass and no body voiced an objection.  That why I voted for it. We do have a legal deadline and of everyone doesn't like it for different reasons that is about the best that can be accomplished.

I voted for Mr. Scheetz admendement to keep a teacher not because of the numbers which really won't change from this year but some kids from D.T. will have to be reassigned to Longswamp.  I thought that the cost didn't out weigh the value of the entired package

Robert Lowry on:5/4/2010 4:32:56 PM

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i think it is time for people to realize times change.  Everything goes up its called inflation.  Gas, food, cost of living, taxes, etc.  I dont think that we should let a tax increase hurt the education of or children. Most school districts taxes are going up you will never be able to change it.  Can we change real estate taxes going up?

Anonymous_240115010124 on:5/4/2010 10:17:55 PM

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Is one of those hard decisions going to be a good one in the future if it has a negative impact on our childrens education.  What if  that decision causes a drop in grades and changes then children attitude about school.  What if it prevents them from getting in to a college of their choice because of a negative effect?  Will it be a good one then?

Anonymous_240115010124 on:5/5/2010 6:08:54 AM

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There is always another job but but children only have one shot at 3rd grade. Ok most kids but I enjoyed it a lot so I hung around for a few.

Amused on:5/5/2010 7:44:52 AM

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OK, you have no idea whether I work two or three jobs.  (hint I do work two), approx 75 hours per week to be exact. I am not scared of work, and have always done what is necessary.  You must be on the public payroll, huh?

Anonymous_20801010161093 on:5/5/2010 5:16:39 PM

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Interesting information since he can't build until a sewer treatment plant is built. I think you might need use of the plant too since you are full of it.

Slightly Confused on:5/5/2010 6:12:57 PM

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Don't forget to paid your PSEA union dues.

Surley on:5/6/2010 6:43:43 AM

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I see a list of major studies was given that backs up the statement about smaller class sizes producing better students that you were questioning. When will you be posting any major study that proves that large classrooms don't harm the education process? If you can it just may sway some people that were on the fence onto your side. I'm guessing it will be difficult to find one because it really is only common sense though.

Wondering2 on:5/6/2010 10:56:36 AM

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John Scheetz on:5/6/2010 4:45:06 PM

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He will hook up to lehigh County Authority.  Thats why he just got all of his Land  that borders his land in Longswamp approved for development.  Go on Lower Macungie's web site and check out the zoning map.  By the way the Jaindl's own the DEP.

Anonymous_6702140230178 on:5/6/2010 6:16:16 PM

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If you say so?  Only time will tell.  Jaindl did it eveywhere else.  Little Longswamp Township does not have a chance vs Jaindl. Just ask Lower Macungie.

Not Confussed on:5/6/2010 9:44:35 PM

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I also heard the same thing for one of his workers.  But he also said the land in Longswamp is great for his farming.  He also said that he will not do anything in Longswamp until he is done with his western properties in Lower Macungie Township.  I'm sure that will be a long time from now.  Alot can change til then.

Scott on:5/6/2010 10:05:33 PM

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Really?  to "discuss" it?  Interesting so we have a thug who wants to resort to violence to get his point across.  Interesting.

Anonymous_75097054047 on:5/6/2010 10:45:59 PM

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I hope that someone else is posting under John's name.  Otherwise, we have a problem.

If this is really a board member, I have one thing to say:  Grow Up.

amused2 on:5/7/2010 10:07:22 AM

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Start the cuts in the High School. Why are there 3 guidance counselors ?

Stroker Ace on:5/7/2010 2:04:40 PM

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I like to go.  Where is the board room?  I know where the auditorium is in the middle school.

Tracy on:5/7/2010 10:02:20 PM

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Excellent.  THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.  Get involved.  Voice your displeasure.  Special interest groups should NOT be the number on concern.  Our kids need to be.

Anonymous_75097054047 on:5/8/2010 12:47:43 AM

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At least her agenda would take the education of our youth into consideration. Not too many of the board members can stand up, look you in the eye and say that their agenda does. If it did we wouldn't be squabbling over whether or not to hire teachers. We wouldn't be raising the sizes of our classrooms. We wouldn't be telling students to leave their school building and friends they have built relationships with over the years. We would be doing the right things but we are not. All in the interest of saving a few bucks. So sad.

Anonymous on:5/8/2010 10:20:16 AM

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First of all you shouldn't balance costs at the expense of education. And second I don' think including enough money in the budget to include 1 or 2 teachers is spending wildly. It's not even close. I would rather see us be spending a small amount of money on teachers, where it will count in the classroom, rather than on large construction and athletic stadium projects such as the ones getting ready to start in Tulpehocken, Daniel Boone and I believe Hamburg too. That is spending wildly. Get a grip and step into the real world.

Anonymous on:5/8/2010 12:04:59 PM

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30 for this and 30 for that... what is another 50 and maybe 45 more. Oh $hit someone just raised our taxes over $150....

Slightly Confused on:5/8/2010 4:40:59 PM

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that is about 45 cents a day.

yep on:5/8/2010 7:01:42 PM

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Actually a lot less than that.  New teacher $60000 with salary and benefits.  $580K for each mill in taxes, So it is about 0.1 mill or $10 for every $100,000 in appraised value which is about the average value in the district.  

Robert Lowry on:5/9/2010 9:19:43 AM

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And you sound foolish whining about a few extra dollars at the expense of our youth's education.

Anonymous on:5/9/2010 12:20:50 PM

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Actually not too many people want to move to the district because of the school taxes.  To make a community viable, you have to bring in new ideas, and new people.   Seniors can't afford the taxes, and neither can young families.  New construction is virtually nil due to the assesments levied on the property.  Delicate balance.

Anonymous_2080101014306 on:5/9/2010 5:00:35 PM

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You are absolutely right!  It is a delicate balance.  But, if you do a survey of realtors in the area, you may find that the question most young, and not so young, families ask when they start looking in an area is: what school district is it in?  Not: what are the property taxes.  Any responsible couple in the market to purchase a house, will have figured out their price range including taxes and fees.

Many realty sites include links to state websites that list the ratings of schools in various districts.  The quality of the school district is a huge factor in determining the purchase of a specific property in any area - for those people who either have children, or intend to start a family.

 Most counties and areas have a wide range of properties and prices to choose from, but the quality and rating of the school district is key to buying in a specific district.

Christine on:5/9/2010 5:19:54 PM

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Yep.  Good points Christine.  We can't fix the funding and debt problems, but we can fix the academics.  I have yet to hear Handler address anything remotely academic, all we hear about are logistics, maintenance and taxes. 

I may be a broken record on this, but I know of what I speak.  If we concentrate on making Brandywine an academically challenging school district with a reputation for producing smart and well rounded students, people will want to live here in spite of the high taxes.  We have beautiful rolling hills, low crime, great neighborhoods and we're close to both the LV & Reading.  We are a bedroom community to the local areas as well as to KOP.  We have a good school district and it wouldn't take all that much to turn it into a great school district. 

First we need to change our own perception about ourselves.  Instead of complaining about the taxes, let's focus on education and promoting what we DO have.  And if Handler doesn't step up and start working on academics, find a new super.  I have been to several of his meetings and all he wants to do is sell a multimillion dollar deferred maintenance program and pander to the taxpayer idiots on the board. 

They have had the loudest voice around here for too long.  It's time for  a new voice.

amused2 on:5/10/2010 8:36:16 AM

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Well Christine don't you just know it all? 

Anonymous_700440520247 on:5/10/2010 4:31:36 PM

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I guess the little taxpayer group is feeling the crunch of the possibility of losing control of the board.  Hence comments like well christine don't you just kow it all.  The normal and I mean normal people need to get control back from these money-hungry school district destroyers.

wow on:5/10/2010 6:34:21 PM

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Wow, did you ever misinterpret my point.  I am on record as completely opposing the new high school.  I felt that the money should have been used in classrooms.  Instead, we built the school, which has completely divided this district.  And no,I did not endorse the closing of Rockland. We had children that went there, and found it to be a great little gem.  That being said, we still have to find solutions that do not break the backs of the taxpayers.  And again, you have to go after the biggest chunk of the budget, which, again, is personnel.  Brandywine is just a microcosm of what every school district will face in a couple of years.  Will you still feel the way you do with double digit tax increases over the next several years when the pension funds are due?

Anonymous_2080101014306 on:5/10/2010 6:39:24 PM

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How many of the people whining about class sizes had students that went to Rockland?  The country club is closed!  The only reason you had 16 kids in a room is because it took 5 years to close the building and indecision by the board.

The grant that reduced a few class sizes at DT was switched to the all day K program.

Bah Humbug! on:5/10/2010 8:54:38 PM

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